Lizards, Wizards and the White Hizzouse….

Just when you think the rabbit hole couldn’t get any weirder, I’m bring you this…A friend of mine told me about this weirdness the other day.  As with all the so-called fringe issues in our modern world, this one has real believers, and those of us trying to figure out the big picture have to acknowledge that things such as this act as worldviews for certain people…It blows my mind but I am trying to open up, not because i find this credible, but because I no longer believe I have enough information to make truly solid judgments.  If something progressive exists, then it must have some appeal for such people, people on the fringes of society.

Father Mapple Moab Adzu III

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  1. Logocentric
    January 6, 2010

    i was momentarily dumbstruck by the last video before i realized it was done by the onion. i first heard about this theory about ten years ago from a friend. he was a self-identified christian but was fascinated with this theory. i never figured out whether he believed that lizards dress up as world leaders or thought it was a silly idea. i personally thought it was the most absurd thing i’d ever heard. nevertheless, i entertained the idea for a while, tried it on and searched for evidence to support it. but now seeing these videos, i find it unbelievable. i took courses on the ancient near east, and these strange-looking lizard beings show up in sumerian sculpture and pottery, but the truth is that no one really knows what they represent. to fill the void, people can become very creative.

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  2. Akbar Lightning
    January 6, 2010

    thanks for the clarification Logocentric, I did not notice the Onion symbol and for the sake of clarity I removed the video (Spoof) from the above list, but will post it here, so you can see how this video has spread around the internet, and is another example of the slippery nature of factual data in the 21st century. At first glance, this looks like an actual event in congress.

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  3. Akbar Lightning
    January 6, 2010

    I added another disturbing piece of reptilian paranoia in its place…enjoy

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  4. globatron
    January 6, 2010

    LC, thanks so much for setting the record straight on the Onion video. That was freaking me out before your heads up. I was going to spend the entire night researching that fake bill. We should just invent some new conspiracy theories to add to the mix. Seems like just about everything is fair game these days.

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  5. Logocentric
    January 6, 2010

    yeah, the onion piece was done pretty seamlessly–they may have used c-span footage and spliced it with an actor for the close-ups. strangely realistic.

    as for the replacement video, i find it more representative of something that is going on in our culture. but who knows what it adds up to. i think one thing it tells us is that there are plenty of people who jump to conclusions with shoddy thinking. some obvious questions that you have no doubt already thought: why on earth is it more plausible that the cnn correspondent is a lizard-man than that there were problems with the video transmission during his report? how many people who skype or use cell phones see and hear some of the weird things long-distance communication produces these days? i’m not saying that it’s impossible that lizard people from another dimension dress up like reporters and presidents. i’m just saying that there needs to be a bit more solid story that puts the pieces together in a compelling way. for example, how is the ancient astronaut theory supposed to relate to reptiles? i’m not sure what connection some people on youtube are trying to make (i think these videos are fairly representative of what’s out there). what i am arguing for is a clearer way of discussing what is interesting about these strange topics. it may turn out that some of it has some basis in fact. however, when we throw in lizard people, alec baldwin, and an unverifiable art bell segment, it makes all the parts seem equally implausible.

    i think that what connects all of the videos posted by father mapple moab adzu iii is a suspicion about two things, and we’re already very familiar with them: 1) that there is a history of some sort of alien presence that either interacts with humans or is otherwise involved in human development; and 2) that there are certain people, usually powerful people, in the know about this but that they keep the important stuff secret or otherwise produce disinformation that keeps the masses confused and misinformed. what we have is really not very different from the story of religion–particularly christianity–in the west. i’d like to go further into those parallels, but in the interest of time, i think it’s sufficient to say that people who support these ideas are simply taking part in a long tradition of trying to understand human origins and thus what it is to be a human. that may not be explicit in the videos and websites on lizard people, but it’s there. and the fact that their reasoning is kind of shoddy may reflect not only a sincere yearning to understand the human situation, but also exposure to the incomplete and often confusing stories about human origins given to us by both science and religion.

    i’ll go out on a limb and say that there are some interesting histories that support the ancient astronaut theory, starting with the creation myths left behind in sumer. more recently, writers such as erich von daeniken and zecharia sitchin have written on this theory, and i think it would be unwise to leave them out of serious discussions of this topic. but that really raises the question of how serious–and public–a conversation intelligent people are willing to have on a topic such as this. i’m not saying i ‘believe’ in this theory; but i am saying that it is interesting and a worthy topic for smart, inquisitive people.

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  6. globatron
    January 7, 2010

    Man LC, this comment is right on. I really appreciate you pointing out the two points. As you pointed out there are those who have made a great argument on these points, such as Erich von Däniken.

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  7. Logocentric
    January 7, 2010

    okay, von Däniken was not as impressive on television as he was in his book, Chariots of the Gods. for me, at least. but i appreciate your comment. the literature on the topic, as i recall, is different from what often finds its way to tv, including youtube. that said, i find the debunking video compelling, particularly regarding the hieroglyphs. nice find.

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  8. Akbar Lightning
    January 7, 2010

    as with all of this stuff, there is some of that evidence that is clearly an expression of over-enthusiasm, but i suppose one must see in it, if one is convinced of such things, that these possibilities cannot necessarily be discounted. however, the egyptian stuff concerning light, oxygen and the lack of soot, is all very fascinating and deserves a response.

    maybe they used…

    Akbar Lightning

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