The Cheese

Posted by on Jul 16, 2010 in Experimental Sounds, politics


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  1. globatron
    July 16, 2010

    this was the first time i used only my voice to make a mix. i enjoyed it a lot more than using pre-made loops and samples.

    it sickens me what politics has done to this country. the two party system was doomed to fail.

    i’ve gone from a political activist to politically apathetic in one year. lovely.

  2. Akbar Lightning
    July 16, 2010

    i feel like you are returning to the experimental origins of early globatron, and i am happy about that…it feels like you are stretching again, really not worrying about craft, but trying to be more immediate and alive, and i am feeling that…

    anyways, i like your more performative works, well done…

  3. globatron
    July 16, 2010

    I am stretching. there is nothing to cling to. craft smaft. I used to worry about commas and grammar. as long as it works for me it works. I’m done worrying about what others think. But as always your opinion means a lot to me for some god dang reason. It must be that time in The Heater. that was our Viet Nam. our days in the jungle.

    thank you my friend.

  4. Greg
    July 16, 2010

    Awww my opinion doesn’t matter Globa, damnit I am hurt. LOL.

    I love cheese but I can’t eat it raw for some weird reason, love it melted though. Unfortunately at work the media streaming portion of the page is blocked at the port level so I can’t listen to this. But if it is about cheese I am game.

    Yeah the two party system really is starting to depress me and make me think there is no way out of this governmental loop we are in until there is another revolution. I have said this before. How and where it would take place I am not sure, would it be ideaological or physical revolution, who knows, all I know is the two parties have become two sides to the same coin and neither appear rooted in what reality is today for people.

    While I am heavily conservative in my nature I believe getting back to an older time of simplistic concepts would be beneficial. Everyone in the community contributes to the community, the community takes care of those whose can’t and helps them until they can. Family’s were more together and intregrated than separated and work ethic was not a dirty word.

    In the old days towns had farmers, blacksmiths, doctor, sheriff, saloon owner, general store owner, everyone made a living and did so through a symboitic relationship with the others because everyone of the peices was required for a town to thrive. Without the farmers there was not crops, cattle or food, without the doctor no medical care, you get the point. Who knows I am rambling again, it would nice to know your place in the world sometimes.

  5. Akbar Lightning
    July 16, 2010

    greg, you are obviously a socialist…

    in order for such a thing to happen, all of the corporations that have taken these autonomous forces, out of which a healthy liberated community arises, would have to be regulated, dissected and apportioned back to community independence…

    believe me, i’m with you, but i just want to point out how glaring your longings make the position we are in…and the necessity of radical redistribution…

    the ancient hebrews had a ceremony called Jubilee, where every seven years a few significant things occurred….one, all land was redistributed equally…farmland was given one year to lay fallow….and all debts were forgiven… this was the means by which this people kept inequality from becoming rampant, while still allowing for short bursts of initiative and achievement (after all, isn’t achievement its own reward)…the land was rested to allow for sustainability….and most importantly, the debts that had been used to help build, were forgiven for those who used their debts poorly and had become slaves…this is what i would call a teaching economy, rather than a punitive one…

    so, i agree, i would like to return to the past to find some valuable insights about future sustainability…of course, that always forces us to ask about what parts of the past…

  6. globatron
    July 16, 2010

    yes Greg, this is really a socialist dream. I’m sure you are aware of that correct? It’s also the definition of a commune. There are intentional communities all over the country. I was looking into them recently. I still need my health care though.

  7. Greg
    July 16, 2010

    Ahhh Akbar now why you have to go an insult me man? LOL.

    I agree the concept I presented might have socialistic tendancies but I assure I am one who believes in the capitalistic system and free markets. My desire is to see more independance and sense of taking care of each other in our communities that has been lost. I don’t think the two concepts are mutually exclusive. Look back to the 40s and 50s, capitalism and community both existed in harmony, when someone in town took ill the community pulled together for the family.

    Maybe I am being nastalogic and reminessicant of older days. I am in a good mood I guess, having challenges with my daughter not getting off her ass and getting a job but other than that it is all good.

    Now if you are nice I will forgive the socialist crack 🙂

  8. globatron
    July 16, 2010

    This is not Globatron. It’s his wife. Good that someone gets enjoyment out of making art from the pain experienced by the person closest to me, and from the pain that that in turn causes me. If it were enjoyment from making something beautiful from that pain, it would be a different story. But it’s enjoyment of the process. That’s just about as self absorbed as you can get. No sensitivity to what those you supposedly love are going through.

  9. Akbar Lightning
    July 16, 2010

    greg, independence and inter-dependence really are mutually exclusive…

    we are either free from the problems of those around us, or we invest in them, and get our lives mixed up with our communities, which means relaxing our tendency to judge and to help those who do not have the same capacities that we have..this is the greatest example that can be given…and by living that way, we actually lift people up by example rather than by ideas and notions that stay stuck in the chest where they turn into resentment…

    the community starts with you greg…

    anybody who grew up in the ‘great 50s’ will tell you it was not the dream it is often portrayed as…of course, there was a lot more wealth and prosperity (for some)…but that of course, was largely the result of new deal economics, using public taxes to initiate public works…highways, parks, infrastructure, quality of life…let’s not forget the wealthy were more heavily taxed back then too, which allowed the government to expand the quality of life for the citizens…that is really what we miss more than anything, the fair distribution of resources…the g.i. bill allowed a lot of those people after WW2 to get ‘hand up’, as you always say, a government program, aimed at a poor population that allowed them access to education that they would not normally have had access to, for the betterment of our society…my grandfather benefited from it…

    if we truly care about our community, we care about them at the level they are at, we start there….there’s nothing worse than kicking a man when he’s down…even if he’s that kind of person that will never learn…

  10. globatron
    July 16, 2010

    Yes Dana. You are correct. This was a really painful time in our lives. To talk about the process only is one sided. I’m sorry I didn’t didn’t mention the pain in my comments. Comments on this post should have been closed. I apologize.

    This political argument in our family has caused a lot of real pain that will take years to heal. I am truly sorry.